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clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and if we injure pll civilians or -- palestinian civilians or kill them tragically, they can use that sensationalize, put the pictures on the newspaper and delegitimize us and deny us the right to defend ourselves. if we injure or god forbid kill palestinians for us that's a tragedy. if they kill israelis for them that's a victory. it's completely different set of rules for hamas and for israel. this time, we were able to reduce in this round of fighting -- the last round was in 2008 -- 2009, a higher level of civilian casualties. w
clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and...
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an antimissile defense system made in israel, helped by american money. 900 rockets fired at israel in six days, only about 30 hit populated areas. >> we enjoy the iron dome, which is a huge success. luckily -- >> reporter: there's a siren now. there's a siren now over -- let's see what happens. it will only fire. the system calculates which rockets will hit an inhabited area and knocks it out, like here. and ignores all others. but it fails, too, missing 2 out of 10shgs officials say, making life scary. children in bomb shelters for the sixth straight day. i'm afraid of the siren, this 7-year-old says. another siren. we're just going in the shelter. and just as we left -- not sure how many rockets are being fired right now but the iron dome -- one, two, three, four iron dome rockets are exploding. we'll see what damage it did. five rockets fired from gaza, four intercepted, one got through and fell in a garden. there's some drama right now because nobody knows exactly what happened, whether there are casualties. terrifying some neighbors. others, defiant. >> we will survive. we will s
an antimissile defense system made in israel, helped by american money. 900 rockets fired at israel in six days, only about 30 hit populated areas. >> we enjoy the iron dome, which is a huge success. luckily -- >> reporter: there's a siren now. there's a siren now over -- let's see what happens. it will only fire. the system calculates which rockets will hit an inhabited area and knocks it out, like here. and ignores all others. but it fails, too, missing 2 out of 10shgs officials...
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israel wouldn't want to escalate. they thought basically they could create a new normal, israel would adjust. israel made the decision we're not going to adjust, there's not going to be a new normal. they're going to have to adjust to the reality. >> ambassador, i was speaking earlier with the former legal adviser for the palestine liberation organization. i asked her about the solution, a potential solution going forward and what might need to happen. this is what she said. >> the message that they should be sending is a very clear one to president obama that now is the time to actually deal with this issue. he can't keep this issue festering for another four years and leave it up to another president. it's time to deal with this decisively and deal with it now. >> ambassador s this the time? >> well, obviously it would be great to be able to produce peace. you also have to deal with the reality. hamas controls gaza. the palestinian authority controls the west bank. you know, there's a context here that doesn't make
israel wouldn't want to escalate. they thought basically they could create a new normal, israel would adjust. israel made the decision we're not going to adjust, there's not going to be a new normal. they're going to have to adjust to the reality. >> ambassador, i was speaking earlier with the former legal adviser for the palestine liberation organization. i asked her about the solution, a potential solution going forward and what might need to happen. this is what she said. >> the...
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israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of gaza for the order that they don't know if it will come. meanwhile, there's very strong negotiations going on especially among arab countries with hamas and trying to get hamas to agree to a truce with israel and get israel to agree, too. israel prime minister talking to the american president talking to the egyptian president, who's talking to hamas. a possibility of a truce midweek, which could head off -- would head off an israel invasion in the short term anyway. >>> in 2009 we saw 200 of these rocket atta
israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of...
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israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and out of your question. let me ask about secretary of state hillary clinton arriving in the region. what are the best hopes and expectations for what she's going to be able to do? is she going to change anything in terms of the balance of power and how this is likely to be resolved? >> it depends if she can convince the egyptians to convince hamas. they feel confident because the arab spring has given it a new batch of friends. if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if
israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and...
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israel will not tolerate it. israel will take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> in response, hamas' prime minister said a time in which the israeli operation does what it wants and gaza is gone. he was not there at the time. what ignited the most recent round of fighting? ramped up rocket fire which demands military response. according to defense forces, the palestinian militants fired more into israel in october this year than all of 2011. there's a semitri in the death toll. the fighting between the militants in 2009 through september of this year, 25 israelis have been killed by palestinians while 314 palestinians have been killed according to the israeli human rights organization. one of the palestinian casualty, a 13-year-old boy killed by israeli forces in a gunfight on november 8th. many point to that as a major escalation of the fighting. as to how and when it will end, they said thursday, it's unclear. we cannot predict what the end point is. at the moment, there's no reason to stop.
israel will not tolerate it. israel will take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> in response, hamas' prime minister said a time in which the israeli operation does what it wants and gaza is gone. he was not there at the time. what ignited the most recent round of fighting? ramped up rocket fire which demands military response. according to defense forces, the palestinian militants fired more into israel in october this year than all of 2011. there's a semitri in the...
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they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt, hamas managed to say, okay, you two sort things out together, and we'll see how this goes. >> richard, one of the other things i was struck by is how vague what both sides agreed to is. both sides have agreed to not breach acts for this understanding. it's almost like a fortune cookie, meaningless vague. does that vagueness make a stronger agreement or a weaker one. does that say anything to you? >> reporter: i think this got lawyered pretty hard. what that means is that israel is not supposed to carry out any sort of targeted assassinations. and when you start t
they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt,...
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israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include an easing of the crossroads into gaza. so peace appears to be eminent but what do you make of the transparency of what the outline of it deal is? >> well, i think we still need to see it implemented. having spent a lot of time in the middle east, done a lot of negotiations, one thing i know about this part of the world, nothing is concluded until you actually see it carried out. it's one thing to talk about it. it's something else to do it. so let's actually see the ceasefire take hold. what i'm hearing is that by midnight their time, which would be around 5:00 our time, that's when it mi
israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include...
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would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that in his second term president obama is going to get more engaged in the peace process. there has been talk of sending president clinton as a mideast envoy. i thought that was an intriguing idea. but at least i think this is -- these are all very good signs for the situation. >> e.j., stay with us, and martin fletcher, thanks to you. i want to bring in senator chris koonce. senator, good morning. >> good morning 0, chris. >> the senate did unanimously pass that resolution standing by israel, something you co-response arored. what do you think hillary clinton brings t
would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that...
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and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders and easing of the blockade and we understand issues discussed perhaps in coming days or weeks. it is really -- it goes back to a central issue, this buys time for the people of did za in terms of attacks and doesn't address the larger issue of gaza in context of the ongoing israeli-palestinian conflict and something people say has to be addressed, part of a larger picture. not an isolated one. >> thanks so much. >>> we want to go to tel aviv and correspondent stephanie gosk joins me. as you were hearing in the reporting, u
and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders...
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as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try to resolve the key demands on both sides. of course, for hamas, the lifting of that 6-year-old blockade of gaza. for israel, it's stopping all the weapons smuggling. but neither will happen immediately. at least, however, they have agreed in principle to these demands and the need to work them out. you had a clip of secretary clinton. she went on to call the cease-fire deal a step in the right direction. she said she looks forward in the days ahead she said to consolidating progress for the people of gaza and israel. and experts are saying that's the key difference here. in previous gaza wars, the
as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try...
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southern israel was not quite so lucky. there were five people injured there when a house was targeted by one of the rockets. today the deadliest day for gaza, more than 20 have been killed. the deadliest attack over the course of the day was in a residential building. more than 12 people were killed when the building was hit. and then proceeded to collapse. most of the people that were killed were from the same family, including women and children. richard? >> stephanie, we've been watching channel 2 news out of israel, quoting hamas saying the negotiations for the cease-fire have failed. and saying that 90% of demands, that was hamas is saying. 90% of demands have been met what are you hearing about the cease-fire? >> well our understanding is that those talks continue. even though those comments are being reported by israeli tv, coming from hamas, that the delegates from the palestinian side and from the israeli side. as well as egyptians and a qatari envoy are still talking about the cease-fire possibility. here on the
southern israel was not quite so lucky. there were five people injured there when a house was targeted by one of the rockets. today the deadliest day for gaza, more than 20 have been killed. the deadliest attack over the course of the day was in a residential building. more than 12 people were killed when the building was hit. and then proceeded to collapse. most of the people that were killed were from the same family, including women and children. richard? >> stephanie, we've been...
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with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers because they don't have bunkers, and there is no early warning system. the only thing we are hearing right now are the sounds of the israeli drones above, with the possibility they could strike any time. when you talk to palestinians, what they will tell you is they are living in a state of fear, a state of terror. they don't know when these attacks are going to happen. and to add to that point, they are not two equal mill tears fighting side by side. the israeli military is one of the most advanced well equipped militari
with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers...
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and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a responsibility to govern, you can't just fire these rockets indiscriminately and trigger this type of backlash. this isn't only a crossroads for israel and gaza, it has a tremendous amount of implications for egypt and u.s. foreign policy vis-a-vis the new emerging realities of the arab world. >> i want to open this up to our panel in new york. something that has been going on that i don't think has got an ton of coverage, is how the israeli defense ministry is using twitter to sort of talk about what they are doing.
and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a...
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and israel will not tolerate this situation. i hope that hamas and the other terror organizations in gaza got the message. if not, israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> that was israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a press conference yesterday as bombings continued between israel and hamas in gaza. today the conflict is rapidly escalating. a hamas rocket struck north of jerusalem this morning and rockets landed in southern tel aviv for the first time in 20 years. israel is now amassing troops along the border with gaza and put 30,000 army reservist troops on alert. egyptian prime minister herb m candill visited and had this to say -- on behalf of the egyptian government and president we have come to stand with the palestinians. palestine is the heart of the arab and muslim world and the body is not healthy while the heart is sick. israel agreed to a brief cease-fire as the egyptian prime minister visited gaza that collapsed after they accused hamas of resuming attacks. at least
and israel will not tolerate this situation. i hope that hamas and the other terror organizations in gaza got the message. if not, israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> that was israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a press conference yesterday as bombings continued between israel and hamas in gaza. today the conflict is rapidly escalating. a hamas rocket struck north of jerusalem this morning and rockets landed in southern tel aviv for...
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then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate cessation of hostilities and a two-stage process within two weeks to a month there would be a broader agreement. we've known from the start that israel wants to do something about changing the reality where these rocket attacks do not continue to come from gaza. at the same time where you're standing in gaza there's a lot of criticism about the counterfire that's come from israel and the way they've been targeting areas that are very dense civilian areas. >> that's correct. in fact a lot of people have been describing it as two types. one it's a disproportionate use of force and more importantly a form of
then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate...
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that's what israel wants to do. we saw how israel says they've destroyed most of those weapons, nevertheless for the first time, there were two long-range rockets fired from gaza towards tel aviv area for the first time, sirens surrounded in cel behind me this evening. two rockets fell harmlessly, close in fields near tel aviv. israel's trying to destroy that threat and say they'll do anything to destroy the threat, threat is still real. yes a ground invasion i would say is a legitimate fear among palestinians it could happen. >> this happen. ss in the context of no ongoing negotiations, nothing has happened on the palestinian front. they have gone to the united nations general assembly for some sort of informal or symbolic status, having a year ago lost their bid for some statehood declared by the security council. what happens next from that perspective? >> well, first of all from a palestinian perspective, two main palestinians factions have been at odds for years. they have been unable to put together a united p
that's what israel wants to do. we saw how israel says they've destroyed most of those weapons, nevertheless for the first time, there were two long-range rockets fired from gaza towards tel aviv area for the first time, sirens surrounded in cel behind me this evening. two rockets fell harmlessly, close in fields near tel aviv. israel's trying to destroy that threat and say they'll do anything to destroy the threat, threat is still real. yes a ground invasion i would say is a legitimate fear...
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according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a war, they will fight and they are prepared to defend their territory as they say and on the same side israelis say they have finalized preparation for a ground invasion and now it is a matter of a political decision, and certainly something that everybody in cairo is trying to avert, but one that everybody here thinks it is not going to be averted any time soon. thomas? >> well, you talk about the diplomatic conversations in cairo, and what is on the table? what terms are being discussed? >> well, tw
according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next,...
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israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set of players. the playing field has changed dramatically. you have an egypt, tunisia that are no longer in the same position vis-a-vis israel. th then you have turkey, too. that's another sort of wild card where the relationship between israel and turkey deteriorated so much from 2010 to today that, you know, the u.s. really is in a position where they really can't take too many steps back from israel because it's more isolated now than it was even two years ago. so it's a complicated situation. i think that if hillary clinton can navigate it
israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set...
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involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the patron of palestinians in the middle east. the morsi government is more supportive of hamas. they used to be based in damascus, syria. they moved out pretty much just in time as the assad regime begins to crumble there and have found new friend in the region as they distance themselves from syria. israel is finding a region in which it has fewer friend and hamas is in a region in which it has fewer allies. growing arab frustration over lack of progress in the peace process has also driven countries in the region to hamas as well. >> this is where i
involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the...
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this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was absolutely shown to be unwarranted. >> okay. i'm supposed to go, but i'm going to give you 15 seconds to respond. >> as of today, richard is correct, but the jewish population supported romney. he must have believed that romney was better, but it is done. the presidential race is over and hopefully the president can broker real peace. real republicans need to stand behind him and hope he's able to do that. >> happy thanksgiving. >>> here at home the american thanksgiving tradition is in full swing. up next, we are live at the macy's thanksgiving day
this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was...
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presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension? we know president obama has been on the phone with mohamed morsi constantly over the last 48 hours. >> reporter: hi there, luke. we'll get more of an idea after secretary of state clinton meets with president morsi. she is just wrapping up that meeting. she is then going to see the foreign minister here and then give a press conference. hopefully in terms of the agreement, the second part of your question, we'll be getting some answers. in terms of morsi's role, as you say, he's a key mediator here. and if he emerges with a deal, there's no que
presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension?...
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israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were intercepted by israel's iron dome missile defense system. this is a system the israeli defense forces have been using with great success over the last five days. they say they have shot down or intercepted a third of the rockets that have been lobbied from gaza toward israel. today was no exception. we saw that in the night sky here in tel aviv. >> okay. any update on the cease fire talks that you can report, stephanie? >> at the moment, we know they are underway in cairo. egypt is leading them and you have representatives from the pales
israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were...
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israel wants the end of weapons smuggled into gaza. that's what the issue is going to be about. >> we've been talking the last couple days broadcasting through this and you've made the point that these types of squirmishes along the border, they are routine. not the fact that a palestinian was killed but these attempts to kind of go up to the fence and test that border line, right? i mean this happens all the time. every day. >> well, it's been going on for years. and that's one of the problems. the israelis patrol the area. palestinian people who live on the other side, it's their land. they want to use their land. to many of them it's farmland. but it's also land that palestinian militants can use to lay land mines and to shoot at israelis. the closer the palestinians come to the fence, the more worried the israelis are that they're actually, what the israelis call terrorists. so the israelis instituted what they call a 300 yard no-go zone. palestinians not allowed in that. israel wanted that to stop terrorists. but the palestinians
israel wants the end of weapons smuggled into gaza. that's what the issue is going to be about. >> we've been talking the last couple days broadcasting through this and you've made the point that these types of squirmishes along the border, they are routine. not the fact that a palestinian was killed but these attempts to kind of go up to the fence and test that border line, right? i mean this happens all the time. every day. >> well, it's been going on for years. and that's one of...
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israel got out of gaza -- israel's a first-world country, a first-world economy. it doesn't want rockets raining down in the middle of tel aviv. it would be like rockets raining down on rockefeller center. israel's way beyond this and wants to move beyond this. also, this brings into play the israeli/egyptian treaty and jordan. everything now -- >> so the question is, why did hamas choose to start firing rockets into israel the way they did? >> i think for hamas -- >> to start this? >> i think for hamas, it's station identification. this is what hamas does. this is how it differentiates itself but hasn't been able to deliver the goods at home to the palestinian people in gaza. this galvanizes its space. it shows the hamas, quote, unquote, is doing something. it has credentials unlike the west bank palestinians who are seen as corrupt and not really offering a palestinian future. >> so they just started firing missiles into israel. >> it's station identification for hamas. and also, hamas now is less isolated. a year ago, they would shoot missiles -- two years ago
israel got out of gaza -- israel's a first-world country, a first-world economy. it doesn't want rockets raining down in the middle of tel aviv. it would be like rockets raining down on rockefeller center. israel's way beyond this and wants to move beyond this. also, this brings into play the israeli/egyptian treaty and jordan. everything now -- >> so the question is, why did hamas choose to start firing rockets into israel the way they did? >> i think for hamas -- >> to start...